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Of the many things banned by the Taliban in Afghanistan... chess?

SCOTT SIMON, HOST:

The Taliban has banned many things since seizing Afghanistan nearly four years ago. There's no music, no videos of living creatures on most Afghan TV stations - that sounds like radio. Mostly no women or girls in school after the sixth grade or even in public without a male guardian. And now, no chess? 91¸£Àû's Diaa Hadid brings us this report.

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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Switching focus, Taliban has banned chess in Afghanistan.

DIAA HADID, BYLINE: The ban on chess may have made the news in some places - that's First Post here in India - but...

AHMAD SAMI HASSANZADEH: (Speaking Dari).

HADID: Former chess coach Ahmad Sami Hassanzadeh found out the hard way while in a park playing chess with friends.

HASSANZADEH: (Speaking Dari).

HADID: He tells 91¸£Àû producer Fariba Akbari that they were accosted by men from the Taliban vice squad. He says, they grabbed our boards and our pieces. They beat up two people.

HASSANZADEH: (Speaking Dari).

HADID: Hassanzadeh says one of the squad men told him and his friends...

HASSANZADEH: (Speaking Dari).

HADID: ...Playing chess is forbidden. Buying a chess set is forbidden. Watching it is forbidden. Hassanzadeh says, in short...

HASSANZADEH: (Speaking Dari).

HADID: ...Our harmless, fun game was gone.

The ban on chess was made public in May, but a female chess player told 91¸£Àû that they'd effectively been barred from playing in public for years, even denied the chance to use facilities designated for women at the local chess club. She requested 91¸£Àû not use her name for fear of retribution by the regime.

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #1: (Speaking Dari).

HADID: Now she only plays chess at home.

I can't deny it, she says. It's frustrating.

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #1: (Speaking Dari).

HADID: Chess in Afghanistan is not madly followed like cricket or the national game - buzkashi. That's like polo, except jockeys have whips and they have to grab a goat's carcass with their hands.

(CHEERING)

HADID: But chess has long been played in Afghanistan.

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UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #2: Except during the rule of the Taliban, as they saw it as a waste of time and forbade it.

HADID: That's a board game obsessive on the YouTube channel UPRISE THE BOX. He's talking about the first time the Taliban banned chess when they came to power in the mid-'90s. The ban only ended after U.S.-led forces toppled the Taliban following 9/11.

So what's wrong with chess? The Taliban sports minister, Atal Mashwani, told journalists that chess is a form of gambling, and that's forbidden in Islam. It's a claim chess players we spoke to found baffling, like Jarullah Badghisi.

JARULLAH BADGHISI: (Speaking Dari).

HADID: He says, it's just a hobby. Nobody gambles.

Nigel Short of the International Chess Federation says they're moving carefully to try to repeal the ban. He hopes the Taliban will see that Afghanistan...

NIGEL SHORT: Is an outlier. We have so many federations from countries that are Muslim.

HADID: But the idea of chess as a sleazy game of chance goes back to the first days of Islam.

JOHN BUTT: There was a misperception at the time of the Holy Prophet that this was a type of gambling.

HADID: John Butt is an Islamic scholar. He says one revered early Muslim even said...

BUTT: That only a sinner plays chess.

HADID: Only a sinner plays chess. But there was pushback that began around a century after the Prophet Muhammad died, when one of Islam's greatest scholars - known as al-Shafi'i - weighed in to say that chess...

RAYMOND KEENE: Was practice for warfare, for military maneuvers, and should therefore be permitted under Islamic law.

HADID: Sir Raymond Keene is an international chess grandmaster and writer. He says during al-Shafi'i's time, elites of one of Islam's greatest empires - the Abbasids of Baghdad - were mad about chess.

KEENE: During the Baghdad period, the greatest chess players in the world were all Islamic.

HADID: Those players spread the game to Europe. But the Taliban aren't the only ones who've banned chess. Iran did, too, after the revolution in 1978. It was repealed a decade later, and now Iran's a regional chess powerhouse. But there's been other controversies over the years. Four female chess players did not return to Iran after playing the game abroad without wearing a headscarf, which is mandatory in Iran - like Dorsa Derakhshani. She now lives in the U.S., and she says the Taliban's chess ban didn't surprise her.

DORSA DERAKHSHANI: It was more like, ah, another, like, classic dictatorship 101 move.

HADID: She says the Taliban are unlikely to change their minds. And she says, of Afghan chess players...

DERAKHSHANI: I'm hoping that you might get the opportunity to leave and represent another country.

HADID: Hassanzadeh, the former chess coach, says he dreams of leaving.

HASSANZADEH: (Speaking Dari).

HADID: He says, banning chess is like cutting a piece out of my heart.

Diaa Hadid, 91¸£Àû News, Mumbai.

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Diaa Hadid chiefly covers Pakistan and Afghanistan for 91¸£Àû News. She is based in 91¸£Àû's bureau in Islamabad. There, Hadid and her team were awarded a Murrow in 2019 for hard news for their story on why abortion rates in Pakistan are among the highest in the world.